[charlie0]

I'm glad I moved over to Mac. I know it's not perfect, but it's much better than Windows. They seem determined to lose customers.

I really like the concept of the Surface Book and got one several years ago. The keyboard no longer works when detaching the screen, so it's practically useless. Even a full reinstall didn't fix that issue.

Their new hardware is moot because ARM is just on a different level. Yeah, they can stick an H class Intel processor, but that will seriously heat up the laptop and eat the battery.

The only reason I still use a windows machine is because of gaming. I'm sure lots of users are on Windows because they have no choice.

[vizzier]

> ...can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things.

This portion of the complaint was a playbook that was defined by Apple and icloud. Feels like an out of the frying pan into the fire situation.

[charlie0]

You can use Mac without icloud. They don't push it nearly as hard as Windows.

[m463]

On the other hand apple collects lots of telemetry out of sight.