[orev]

> The competition here is macbook and ipad, not last years stuff.

No, it absolutely is not. Windows software (the vast majority that’s used in businesses) needs to run on Windows, and nobody is doing real work on an iPad.

> Why do the surface people keep hamstringing themselves with intel?

Because no viable ARM options exist in the Windows world. Windows on ARM is improving and somewhat workable for simple things, but it’s not ready for heavyweight things (like virtual machines, a lot of development tasks, device drivers, etc).

Performance per watt isn’t the most important thing for many people. It’s pretty rare to need 12 hour battery life when you’ll never have access to a power outlet. More efficiency is nice, but it’s not a dealbreaker.

[kd913]

They didn't even give a battery life figure over here. That tells volumes at how good this device is.

Apple front and center on all-day, 18 hour battery life.

>No, it absolutely is not. Windows software (the vast majority that’s used in businesses) needs to run on Windows, and nobody is doing real work on an iPad.

We don't live in the same world as the past, connectivity is king and the heavy lifting can and should be done elsewhere. If someone needs to do heavy lifting on windows, they wouldn't go with this glued mess.

If they want cheap with discounts, this would probably fail compared with HP, Dell or Thinkpad.

Who is this product for?