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by swatcoder 822 days ago
I mean, I can't speak for what was unmentionably hot in the 19th century or whatever, but there are many many living people who were plenty free-spirited during the 20th century and are quite open about what they did and do get up to, and many graphic literary and media accounts of the same.

There are also many much older literary sources on practice and technique that are quite rich and detailed but don't really give it much attention.

You're correct that none of that can provide authoritative counter-evidence to the claim that it's always been as popular and widespread as it is today, but given that many practices do come in and out of fashion, it's easier for most to assume that the particular quiet of the oral and literary historical record about this is because it wasn't popular than that it is the one secret thing that nobody blabbed about in topical literature or ran across much in their own experience. I didn't even think it's recent, dramatic rise in popularity was contentious until you pushed back on it just now.

I'd personally put the burden of proof on demonstrating that it was similarly common rather than that it wasn't. But I would understand those determined to disagree.

There are cultural trends and fashions in intimate practice, though, whether or not you accept that this is one of them.

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> It wasn't a very common practice in earlier generations, it became an increasingly common practice in newer generations

...followed by...

> I mean, I can't speak for what was unmentionably hot in the 19th century or whatever

...seems to indicate you should not have been so confident in your initial assertion. A great number of things were likely less mention-able in prior generations, including the act of hetero-normative sex; I suspect people had plenty of sex then, considering we exist at all.