[abeppu]

For people on this who are more knowledgeable about both recent incidents and perhaps any details about Boeing as an organization ... do the recent incidents make you skeptical of _all_ Boeing aircraft? Is it only later generations of the 737?

[slimshreydy]

The details are still hazy but it does seem there was some actual supply chain and manufacturing issues with some of these planes. There's a few people that have done pretty nice deep dives on this, like https://heated.world/p/boeings-big-green-disaster.

[tekla]

That wasn't a deep dive. That was a terrible and biased article that takes a "Boeing should have only focused on the environment" BS. A piece of rag.

[slimshreydy]

I think emotive/political language aside, it explains that the 737 MAX was pushed out the door to catch up with Airbus's newer, more fuel-efficient engines. Boeing basically used an existing plane design and jammed the engine in there, and tried to offset it with a new MCAS technology to help with the nose pitch issues. While it's worked most of the time, seems there's some edge cases in that tech that might not have been there had there been a ground up redesign.

I think this twitter thread might provide a more objective take on the same types of content in the article: https://twitter.com/emorwee/status/1770833808222277890

[mike_d]

You should be wary of any aircraft that has been worked on by Spirit AeroSystems (not to be confused with Spirit Airlines), which also does work for Airbus and others. The issue with Boeing is entirely poor management that continues to funnel work to Spirit.