[johnchristopher]

> > Super, type 2 or 3 letters of the program I want, enter. Works really well for me.

> I don't use GNOME and can't speak for softirq, but what you're describing sounds to me like a command line interface. I can imagine two problems with it:

Don't imagine. Get in the lab, see how people are using it and how you are actually using it.

It's not a command-line. I run awesome and <super> r is a command line, as in "if i don't type the exact name of the application it won't work, if i don't type the exact first letters then tab won't work". Try out gnome and see how it doesn't behave the same.

[foresto]

> Don't imagine. Get in the lab, see how people are using it and how you are actually using it.

My point was simply that the actions described by the person to whom I replied fail to satisfy some common use cases, and do not refute the original complaint. It doesn't take a research project to see that. I wasn't commenting on whether there might be some other way to satisfy them.

In any case, I have tried GNOME recently, and found that it doesn't suit me. Opinionated UI isn't always bad, but this one is full of opinions that I find counterproductive.

[johnchristopher]

> > Don't imagine. Get in the lab, see how people are using it and how you are actually using it.

> My point was simply that the actions described by the person to whom I replied fail to satisfy some common use cases, and do not refute the original complaint. It doesn't take a research project to see that. I wasn't commenting on whether there might be some other way to satisfy them.

No, your points are simply not grounded in real usage:

> - Discoverability. If someone knows what they want to do but doesn't know (or forgot) the names of the apps that can do it, they're left to type in guesses until they find something that works out.

Absolutely not. The default gnome launcher is still browsable with the mouse. You only have to scroll, which is way easier than clicking back and forth in kicker or tree based default menu where you have to guess which category the app you are looking for falls in. With Gnome, all the icons/apps are laid out.

They are not left to type in guesses.

Guesses ? "Jeez, I wonder which word I should type in to start libreoffice of firefox, let me try Internet navigator and word muncher". What weird imaginary use case is that.

> Also, if they just want to browse the apps that came preinstalled on their system, an application launcher provides, while a command line interface does not.

Also... what ? Op wrote "Super, type 2 or 3 letters of the program I want, enter. Works really well for me."

"Program I want". Why are you bringing up discoverability as a counter-argument when it's not what OP is doing ? It's like complaining a terminal is problematic to start an app because there isn't a list of icons to select. This is just moving the goal post from "starting an app" to discoverability.

> I wasn't commenting on whether there might be some other way to satisfy them.

> In any case, I have tried GNOME recently, and found that it doesn't suit me. Opinionated UI isn't always bad, but this one is full of opinions that I find counterproductive.

Okay, I see, this is just pissing on gnome for the sake of pissing on it then.

[foresto]

> Okay, I see,

You don't, but I'm done with your rudeness. Goodbye.