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by icegreentea2 823 days ago
In addition to Armenia/Azerbaijan, Turkey has had a significant internal conflict with the PKK (Kurds) in the East/South East for... a very long time.

Also that whole region is just patchy with flight data - it makes it difficult to really see the true shape of jamming.
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obdev 823 days ago
> Turkey has had a significant internal conflict with the PKK (Kurds)

PKK the terrorist organization, yes. Kurds the ethnic group, no.

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skissane 823 days ago
> > Turkey has had a significant internal conflict with the PKK (Kurds)

> PKK the terrorist organization, yes. Kurds the ethnic group, no.

The Turkish government has a decades long history of discrimination against Kurds, including banning their language, even denying their existence as a people. If Turkey had treated Kurds better, PKK may well have never existed, and almost certainly would not have had as many Kurds supporting it even if it still had.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_of_Kurdish_people...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial_of_Kurds_by_Turkey

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia_and_discrimination_...

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obdev 822 days ago
Turkish Government has had many high-ranking Kurdish officials, including multiple presidents and prime ministers.

There have been more Kurds served in the Turkish Army than all the other armed organizations combined.

Majority of Kurds in Turkey openly support the Turkish Government, especially against the PKK terror.

Several Kurdish organizations in Iraq, Syria, and Iran support the Turkish Government, especially against the PKK terror.

PKK kills Kurds. PKK kills Turks. PKK will happily kill you if doing so benefits the crime and propaganda business they have been profiting for decades.

Let's not parrot some politically charged material as facts without having any actual understanding about such sensitive matter.

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skissane 822 days ago
According to Wikipedia [0]:

> The Kurdish language was banned in a large portion of Kurdistan for some time. After the 1980 Turkish coup d'état until 1991 the use of the Kurdish language was illegal in Turkey.[52]

> Before August 2002, the Turkish government placed severe restrictions on the use of Kurdish, prohibiting the language in education and broadcast media.[55][56] In March 2006, Turkey allowed private television channels to begin airing programming in Kurdish. However, the Turkish government said that they must avoid showing children's cartoons, or educational programs that teach Kurdish, and could broadcast only for 45 minutes a day or four hours a week

It is true that over the last 20 years or so, the Turkish government has relaxed many (but not all) of its anti-Kurdish laws and policies. But that doesn't erase the reality of the decades of oppression which proceeded it.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_language

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obdev 822 days ago
In the 1980s, Iraqi Kurds were fleeing to Turkey for freedom and safety. The Prime Minister was of Kurdish origin. You could hear people speak Kurdish freely anywhere between the west and east end of the country.

There were no "anti-Kurdish" laws and policies. The pro-American coup d'état in 1980 came with a law to control non-Turkish publications, but it was never put into action.

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skissane 821 days ago
> There were no "anti-Kurdish" laws and policies.

Here's a 1999 Human Rights Watch report – "RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE OF THE KURDISH LANGUAGE" – https://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/turkey/turkey993-08.htm

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