[wiz21c]

> So it seems to me inevitable that we're going to need to do geoengineering.

Nobody knows how to do that at scale and for a time frame long enough and safely (although there are experiments all over the place). Stopping fossil fuels, moving to renewable and nuclear, using less energy is the only known and safe way. And for the rest of time, adapt (which, depending on the speed of our efforts, will mean less people in uninhabitable zones and migrations or, if we're too slow: wars).

[Voultapher]

Safe for who? How are we going to extract the resources required for that clean energy transition without further habitat destruction? Energy is IMO a red herring, yes energy is needed to maintain our current way of life. But what about all the other species we share this world with? Spoiler, the unsustainable part is modernity https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2024/03/lets-make-a-deal/

[Yizahi]

"Stopping fossil fuels, moving to renewable and nuclear, using less energy" is great. None of it just doesn't reverse climate change even a little. It just means we have dialed the oven regulator from 3 to 2. The oven will reach maximum temperature anyway, just a little slower.

Geoengineering is not similar thing to the emission reduction initiatives, it is a completely different idea with a completely different result in the end. You can't substitute one for another.