[antisthenes]

Yeah, those pesky setbacks like getting injured, working yourself to death and running out of money so you can't feed yourself.

If only people tried for real.

In my experience people most likely to write this are trust fund babies who neglect to mention they're getting essentially a stipend from their parents to take care of all their life necessities, so they can "try for real". Whatever that means.

[gizmo]

What I have seen is that people who don't quit eventually become pretty successful. Some people have to quit because of health reasons or other unfortunate circumstances. But in the overwhelming majority of cases people just get demoralized.

20 years ago I would have agreed with you, but today I don't.

[antisthenes]

> 20 years ago I would have agreed with you, but today I don't.

On that point, I'll agree with you. 20 years ago I would have said you're flat out wrong, but today, I'd say you have a valid point in that too many people give up after the first few failures (or never even try enough to get to a failure point)