[kareemm]

Love it. I've been increasingly dissatisfied with Things.

Specific things I'm looking for in a Todo manager:

1. iPhone <=> Mac apps and syncing

2. Hotkeys + Speed

3. Shared lists (you don't even mention this until I get into Guides, but I love it)

4. Smart lists

5. Nesting

6. Pasting images

7. Projects + subtasks

8. An inbox

9. Snoozing to the future

10. Focus mode (gets rid of everything else EXCEPT for the current task... really nice as a reminder when I start a task, hop into a meeting, and flip back to the todo list to see what I'm meant to be working on and it's staring me in the face vs. seeing a long list of items). Don't think you support this - first saw it in Amazing Marvin.

Concerns:

1. How painful will it be to import from Things?

2. What if the app goes away? I don't want to lose my stuff or switch again, it's a pain. How big is your company? Are you a going concern with real customers or is this a side project that will fall by the wayside?

3. I do love not paying a subscription for Things. I like the $150 one-off fee for 18m. Would consider that.

Regardless, going to play with it today. Seems very promising!

[lelandfe]

$150 is $90 more than getting Things for iOS and macOS. I'm a big Things user, will be curious to see if this is worth the price.

Shame that it only nets you 18 months, and seemingly no support guarantee. I'm also curious how limitless bug fixes for older versions is going to work out. "Godspeed will never stop working" feels like a bold claim to make given enough time in "never." I've been using Things for 6 years now.

[kareemm]

Agreed re: 18 months. Been using Things for 8-9 years now, tried Sunsama, Todoist, and Amazing Marvin but keep coming back to Things.

Godspeed looks interesting enough vs Things to kick the tires b/c:

1. Speed of date picking and moving todos (choosing dates in Things is a mouse operation and I do it multiple times a day. It's 2024 guys, we don't need calendar pickers when we have command palettes)

2. Image support (super annoying I can't include files in Things. Again... 2024, come on)

3. Sharing lists (can't do in Things which doesn't respect that todos are often collaborative / shared)

[lelandfe]

Cultured Code's rate of development is my greatest negative, lol. Text resizing is the biggest feature add in recent memory.

> choosing dates in Things is a mouse operation

Not so! Cmd-Shift-D: https://imgur.com/a/kfa6KZj

[kareemm]

CMD-Shift-D -- TIL, thanks!

[mj4e]

CMD Shift S too

[jorvi]

Try TickTick. It’s pretty much Todoist but with a faster developmental pace. The desktop app is also less of a shitty oversized mobile app layout. It is however slightly less refined. And you get stuff like a time tracker (Pomodoro) and habit tracker built in.

[gcr]

Changing dates in Things isn’t a mouse operation. Highlight todo, Cmd+Shift+D, then type the date.

[mtillman]

I'm a big fan of Things (started with V1) and am happy they're getting stiffer competition. Will help both products and I'll benefit.

[DanielDe]

I'm happy to say it looks like we tick 9/10 of those boxes!

> 10. Focus mode

You're right, this is the one we don't support. But we've gotten requests for it, including from my cofounder, so its coming!

> 1. How painful will it be to import from Things?

I'm not sure if Things lets you export tasks, but if they do I'm more than happy to run a one-time custom import for you (or any other Things user). There's also the simpler way, which is copying a bunch of tasks to your clipboard and hitting ⌘+Shift+V in Godspeed to paste tasks from clipboard. It'll respect indentation and bullet characters.

> 2. What if the app goes away? I don't want to lose my stuff or switch again, it's a pain. How big is your company? Are you a going concern with real customers or is this a side project that will fall by the wayside?

Important question, thank you for asking it. First, if the app goes away, you're able to export your data from Godspeed. Currently it exports as JSON, but we're going to add other export formats in the future (as well as attachment exporting, which we don't currently support - though all your attachments are stored in a particular folder in ~/Library).

We're small right now, just a few people. But this app is pretty cheap to run and we use it every day (I don't want to brag, but I'm currently at the top of the charts for # of todos with 22,000 :p). So for what its worth, we intend to be around for a long time.

Thanks so much for the feedback and for checking it out! Happy to answer more questions, either here or [e-mail]

[cweagans]

> I'm not sure if Things lets you export tasks, but if they do I'm more than happy to run a one-time custom import for you (or any other Things user). There's also the simpler way, which is copying a bunch of tasks to your clipboard and hitting ⌘+Shift+V in Godspeed to paste tasks from clipboard. It'll respect indentation and bullet characters.

The local Things database is just a sqlite database. https://culturedcode.com/things/support/articles/2803570/

[DanielDe]

Oh wow, that's so good to know - thank you for sharing that!

[adamweld]

I'm surprised no one in this thread has mentioned Workflowy[0].

It is extremely minimal and elegant, does everything that you're looking for (on first glance), and is completely free. Not to be hyperbolic but the interface is ingenious in it's power and simplicity. Give it a shot.

[0]: https://workflowy.com/basics/

[ternaryoperator]

> "and is completely free"

It's not completely free. [0] A set of features are available free. The complete set of features runs > $4/month, depending on whether you pay monthly or yearly.

[0] https://workflowy.com/pricing/

[adamweld]

Sure, technically there is a paid plan but all of the important stuff is free.

I use the app for work and personal note taking, todo lists, etc. and have not run into any limitations of the free plan in the last five years of daily usage.

[deanishe]

> I'm surprised no one in this thread has mentioned Workflowy

It's an online service, isn't it? Not a local application.

[adamweld]

It has native apps for Linux, Windows, MacOS, iOS, and Android.

https://workflowy.com/download/

[brainchild-adam]

Logseq (https://logseq.com/) as an offline-first, open-source variant.

[karyb]

And https://dynalist.io/ is in a very similar vein

[rednerrus]

It's hard to beat workflowy in this category. Developer is top notch.

[FredPret]

Do you have Things for Mac? I loved Things on my iPhone until I saw the Mac version is another CAD 70.

Now I use vanilla Obsidian with checkboxes - super simple, and I own the file.

There's no snoozing though - you have to cut-paste a task into a different todo list if you want to move it.

I'm sure there's also a plugin that would make it more org-mode-ish.

[xianm]

> you have to cut-paste a task into a different todo list

I wrote a template for my Daily Note which includes a Tasks section. Underneath the list of tasks for the day, I use a Dataview to create a collapsable "Backlog" section, which selects all uncompleted tasks from my Daily Notes folder with a created time before the current file. It ends up looking something like:

  ### Tasks
  - [ ] Task 1
  - [ ] Task 2
  
  >[!todo]- Backlog
  > #### 2024-03-18 (1)
  > - [ ] Uncompleted task from 2024-03-18 Daily Note
  >
  > #### 2024-03-17 (2)
  > - [ ] First uncompleted task from 2024-03-17 Daily Note
  > - [ ] Second uncompleted task from 2024-03-17 Daily Note

The cool part about this, aside from being able to show/hide the Backlog, is you can mark a task as done from the Backlog section, and it will update the original Daily Note file, and remove it from the Backlog section.

Here's the Dataview query I'm using:

  >[!todo]- Backlog
  > ```dataview
  > TASK WHERE startswith(file.folder, "Daily Notes/") AND !completed AND file.ctime < this.file.ctime AND file.link != this.file.link GROUP BY file.link
  > ```

[kareemm]

I have both Things for Mac and iPhone. The money's trivial for organizing my life. I don't want to spend a second more in my todo app than necessary and would rather pay to have things just work.

[jamil7]

It's a one time purchase for both though, I've used it almost daily (at least during the week) for 3 years or so now.

[devrob]

Somewhat off topic, does anyone use Paper/Pencil (specifically bullet journals), Apps and Digital Calendars with what feels like not much effort? I haven't been able to come to a happy medium between them all.

Also Concern #3, is there a subscription for things? o.O

[al_borland]

I think the more tools you have, the harder it gets. I see some of these productivity guys, like Ali Abdaal, on YouTube and their systems look like a nightmare, with 8 different apps depending on the type of data.

The easier I make it on myself the better.

At work, after trying seemingly everything, I think I hit my stride with Obsidian. I have a plugin to show a calendar that works with the daily notes. I setup a template for that with a todo heading and a notes heading. I treat that kind of like a bullet journal. Each day I move over the stuff that wasn’t finished from the last day. The notes section is to give me a scratch pad for stuff that I only need that day. Other notes go to their own page to easily find later (with none of that zettlekasten nonsense). If I have a lot in my mind at the end of the day, especially on a Friday or before vacation, I’ll fill out the daily note for the day I plan to be back in the office, so I can remember where I left off. I can also open up a future daily note to add an item if I need to follow up on something on a certain day. For normal meetings I use Outlook, because I have to.

At home, the above system doesn’t work so well, because I have a lot less going on. I don’t need something that requires daily interaction like that. I have been writing up some ideas for an app I plan to write that will hopefully solve this problem for me. Time will tell how that plays out. In the meantime I’m using Apple Reminders and Calendar in a pretty basic form.

[danielecook]

I use a notebook and pen. It's like having another screen, except it's my list of todo's and its always open and in front of me.

I write a list of todos, check them off as I go, then rewrite that list once the page is full or after a few days - leaving off those that are done. I've found it works better than any app (and I have tried many).