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by Gormo 823 days ago
> I’ve overheard enough conversations between high net worth individuals to say there’s absolutely unique qualities about land as an asset class or they wouldn’t hold so much of it.

Every asset class has its own uniquely defining characteristics in financial terms. There are unique qualities of stocks, of bonds, of index funds, etc. But I don't see any fundamental difference between land and any other scarce resources in real economic terms, and definitely nothing sufficient to treat land differently as a fundamental philosophical principle!

> Immobility: Land doesn’t move, making it a stable tax base.

Lots of things don't move in any meaningful way with respect to taxing jurisdictions.

> Scarcity: No more land is being created, so taxing it efficiently is crucial.

I disagree that no more land is being created in an economic sense. As I mentioned above, developments that increase efficiency of particular use cases for land are economically equivalent to the supply of land expanding.

And there are even some cases where new land is even being created in a literal physical sense -- see the Netherlands, for example.

> Non-distortionary: Taxing unimproved land doesn’t distort transactions.

It certainly does distort transactions for unimproved land. And what is "unimproved land" in the first place? Whose definitions apply, and how do we handle edge cases. If I purchase a plot of land for the specific purpose of maintaining it in its natural state as a preserve, is it improved or unimproved?

> Local Funding: LVT may be an effective way to fund local government since land cannot be moved to avoid taxes

But there are lots of other ways of avoiding taxes. Still, this purely pragmatic point -- which correctly understands taxation as a means to fund the necessary operations of government, and not a tool to manipulate behavior or as an end in itself -- explains why a large portion of local government funding already comes from property taxes.

I'm not sure what trying to take what already works and reconstitute it according to Georgist principles (which are logically weak and entail a lot of dangerous implications) brings to the table.

> So yeah. Tax the damn land already. Especially to fund local government and services, which you kinda need to have a functioning society.

Property is already widely taxed, local governments are already funded, and society is already functioning, car washes and all.

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No one needs stocks, and you can create infinite new stocks. Everyone needs to live somewhere. Land is a fundamental necessity.