[jsjohnst]

> How many countries was the Nokia N95 available in VS. the 2G iPhone?

Way more, especially since the original iPhone was only available in the US for the first 5 months. It was available across Europe, North America, South America, China, and Australia at minimum.

> I don't think it launched in Asia or most of Europe.

The N95 was heavily across Europe, that was the primary market for it in fact.

[dnissley]

So you can see how it might not be a fair comparison?

[jsjohnst]

Sure do. But it’s also a quite a bit more expensive phone too, which helps level the playing field some. Either way, there will never be a perfect apples to apples comparison.

That said, there is sufficient evidence to support my claim made in my original post.

[dnissley]

Is the claim that sales numbers are the only way to measure success? And since the 2g iphone didn't measure up in that department it doesn't qualify as a success?

[jsjohnst]

If you have a counter claim, especially one you can back up with as much facts as I did, please do so. Otherwise, please either stop straw manning or find some other place to do so.