[shepardrtc]

GPT4 has been significantly neutered. Personally I suspect it's a combination of model updates that aren't that good, but also resources being moved over to GPT5. I suspect there's a culture of "no roll-back".

If you go to the OpenAI playground and try out the original model, gpt-4-32k-0314, you'll see a dramatic difference in responses, especially for coding.

[ChildOfChaos]

I fear that Claude will become neutered, it's already refusing a prompt that I was using a few days ago without issue, infact I can still go back to the old chat and continue it, but restarting it Claude refuses.

[huevosabio]

The turbo model is particularly bad.