[realusername]

I have the opposite opinion. If we want to talk about bugs, I literally left the iPhone world just because of the bugs and the poor quality of the software in general. I had error loops when installing apps and the one of my wife has keyboard freeze for 4 seconds at a time. The internet is full of threads of people with this exact problem but there's never any documented way to fix anything in an iPhone, it either fully works or good luck.

Sure the hardware might be better but the software though... Anything related to icloud, the appstore and the accounts themselves looks like it's holding up together with duck tape.

[graphe]

Never heard of it or seen it documented anywhere. What is an "error loop installing apps" and where did you see that documented?

> The internet is full of threads of people with this exact problem but there's never any documented way to fix anything in an iPhone, it either fully works or good luck.

Is that hyperbole? There's a video of a guy putting a headphone jack in an iphone 7.

[realusername]

> What is an "error loop installing apps" and where did you see that documented?

I can't remember the exact error text but any attempt to install or update an app said something about an error setting up payments (even a free app) and the only way to stop this modal loop was to reboot the device. It's just in a drawer now.

That kind of sums up the general experience I had with the device.

For my wife's keyboard issue it's pretty random, you are typing and then the whole screen freezes for 4 seconds, when whatever you typed while frozen unbuffers all at once. I guess it's some bug in the Vietnamese IME since the keyboard needs to buffer diacritics (I'm just guessing)

> Is that hyperbole? There's a video of a guy putting a headphone jack in an iphone 7.

No it's just how it works in iPhone, full of random suggestions in case anything sticks because nobody has an idea on how it works and there's never any debug info.

Another example, I had another error setting up the dev account, nobody knew what to do, even their own support at Apple!

[graphe]

I've never heard of it, but it sounds like a very easy fix.

You can get debug info. I have copied my crash logs.

If your wife's using a 3rd party keyboard they are treated worst and may crash. Android has always gotten better with their interface but they are locking more and more stuff. I would use Android if i didn't always get audio issues, I would rather use a computer with a phone, but not if the phone makes me unlistenable. Hope your Android issues are nonexistent or manageable.

[realusername]

> You can get debug info. I have copied my crash logs.

Maybe you can, it just seems harder than adb since I only have Linux machines now.

> If your wife's using a 3rd party keyboard they are treated worst and may crash

No this is the standard iphone keyboard which is freezing the screen, I didn't even know you could have third party ones on iphones, I thought they were not allowed by Apple. I guess that changed.

> I've never heard of it, but it sounds like a very easy fix.

Yeah sure it can be done technically, I would have to factory reset the iPhone again and it might fix it but I really didn't want to fiddle with it anymore to make it work though, I was already tired of it.

> Android has always gotten better with their interface but they are locking more and more stuff. I would use Android if i didn't always get audio issues, I would rather use a computer with a phone, but not if the phone makes me unlistenable.

Personally I never encountered audio issues on Android. Except if we're talking about Bluetooth but I'm convinced it's impossible to make a Bluetooth device that works, I had Bluetooth bugs on Windows, Linux, Android and iOS.