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by achow 825 days ago
Yes, it was published through Nature.

But what stops Univ' site to have original research paper available for download? Nature magazine is just a distribution channel (they did not sponsor the research so should not have exclusive rights on it).

Left college long time ago; and do not have access to any library system.
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bayindirh 825 days ago
Copyright Transfer Agreement. The moment you send the paper to Nature, you can only publish the draft you sent in. Unless you pay for publish, editorial costs are paid by selling access to that paper.

If you want to publish in an Open Access manner, you need to pay the costs. Or if your country wants to license it for Open Access, your country pays the costs.

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pca006132 825 days ago
If I understand correctly, for most publishers you are allowed to host a copy on your personal web as well as the university library catalog?
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bayindirh 825 days ago
AFAIK, this comes with distribution limitations like to your department and students in the university. There's an exception for arXiv generally for publishing intermediate revisions, but not the final one.

Elsevier has a nice summary at [0]. At the bottom there's "Publicly share the final published article". It's "YES" for Open Access and "NO" for subscription (classical) model. There's a rather detailed "Scholarly Share" which allows sharing with researchers, but not to any researcher, as I aforementioned on top.

[0]: https://www.elsevier.com/about/policies-and-standards/copyri...

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pca006132 825 days ago
Never knew this before! Thanks for sharing.
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achow 825 days ago
The final draft that was sent is good enough, maybe all that one needs.
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bayindirh 825 days ago
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. In my case, the edited versions of (my) paper had more experiments, refined images and was more complete.

The paper was not bad to begin with, but the edited/revised version painted a more complete picture which shouldn't be possible without a set of external reviewers.

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SturgeonsLaw 825 days ago
If you email the authors they might be happy to send you a copy - scientists tend to be in favour of the free exchange of information, there's no restriction on them sharing their paper if they choose to, and they don't get royalties from journal subscriptions so they have no vested interest in paywalling their research
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bayindirh 825 days ago
Not all of them. I sent a couple of such mails, to only get back the freely available summary PDFs back. Even with the same checksum with the ones on the web.
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0xEF 825 days ago
True, but I'd say it's still worth the email asking. I used to work in the mental health field requested paywalled research papers on cognitive and developmental disabilities pretty regularly, and about 80% of the people I contacted sent the paper to me without much question.

The more we all do it, the more expected the practice becomes and with any luck, these money-grubbing journals will take note and start offering copies at a minimal fee or time-limited access.

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bayindirh 825 days ago
Of course. I'm a big proponent of Open Access. OTOH, Elsevier seems to give 50 days of Open Access via share links. I didn't know that.

I was away from academic arena for some time. Looks like I'll be returning soon-ish.

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cj 825 days ago
Yep. My dog was part of a study at UC Davis. All I was able to get was an abstract.
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