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by SideburnsOfDoom 821 days ago
Of course. "personal freedom" is a multi-edged implement, it's not just for meat-eaters. There is no "pro freedom" argument in preventing me from choosing "lab-grown meat", if I want to. My reasons might be good or bad, emotional or not, that's irrelevant. You can't prevent me and also claim to be all for personal freedom, as these states like to.
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exe34 820 days ago
> "There is no "pro freedom" argument in preventing me from choosing "lab-grown meat"

I was about to point out that the very TFA was about states lining up to outlaw it, but the sibling comment on here is the exact same hysterical response I was referring to. I would support labelling the item - I wouldn't eat either version myself, but banning one for the emotional comfort of flesh-eaters is the problem here.

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kelipso 820 days ago
The freedom to not be exposed to lab-grown meat. To live a life free of experimental, potentially harmful, not widely tested lab-grown meat is important for a happy and healthy life. Etc.
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SideburnsOfDoom 820 days ago
> The freedom to not be exposed to lab-grown meat.

What do you mean "exposed to" ?

If you mean "eat it", then ... don't eat it. Eat something else. That's not at all the same as preventing me from eating it. "personal freedom" is, as I said, a multi-edged implement, Why trample on my freedom in the process of freely not eating something?

If you mean that it's around, then so is lead, gasoline exhaust smoke and any number of other pollutants that are present in some quantity, are much harder to avoid, and are worse. We don't have complete freedom from them. There is no justification for a special legal exception for lab-grown meat.

If you mean that you don't want it present in the same supermarket, even wrapped in plastic, then ... isn't that a little fragile? Vegans are expected to shop in meat-carrying shops, and there is no justification for a special legal exception in that direction, or the the other direction.

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kelipso 820 days ago
> There is no justification for a special legal exception for lab-grown meat.

Sure there is. It's untested and experimental. I don't want to go to a restaurant and accidentally eat lab-grown meat.

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SideburnsOfDoom 820 days ago
Then chose to eat something else, you're good. I'm not seeing your choice here as in any way a worse issue than anyone else (such as someone on a vegetarian or halal diet) faces already without this kind of special treatment.

And I don't think you're engaging fully with the questions above in parent or grandparent post. I will refrain from repeating myself when you can always re-read.

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exe34 820 days ago
Do you also worry about muslims accidentally eating non-halal meat? Do you worry about jews accidentally eating pork? Would you be okay for them to ban such things?

As a vegetarian who pukes when I accidentally eat meat (happened twice in ten years), I would like to ban all meat. I trust that I'll have your enthusiastic support?

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itishappy 820 days ago
That's not freedom. Are we also given the freedom to choose lab-grown meat if we so please? Otherwise "freedom to choose the only available option" is disingenuous.

Also understand that the FDA regulates lab-grown meat to the same health standards as farm-grown meat, and you can go buy genetically modified meat in the store today. 95% of meat sold in the US is thus "experimental."

https://www.fda.gov/food/human-food-made-cultured-animal-cel...

https://www.fda.gov/food/agricultural-biotechnology/gmo-crop...

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