[jmatthews]

You can't take this as authoritative but my business has a data relationship with Toyota and they have a ton of juicy telemetry data.

Their attorneys are mad protective of the PII they have. Our relationship serves the public interest. We use the data to find people with open recalls where Toyota doesn't know who the current owner is.

I say this to say that we have other OEM relationships that are far more liberal with their encumbered data. This far Toyota seems to be playing it very straight.

[jstanley]

You seem to be suggesting that Toyota are the good guys because they collect data but don't share it.

That's not what I want! I want them not to collect it. Then I don't have to worry about what they use it for, whether they share it, or whether it will get leaked.

[d0gsg0w00f]

But will you sue them if you get hurt and you find out the part was a known failure mode and eligible for a recall?

[cstrahan]

Sure, why not?

This isn't some dichotomy: either collect data behind peoples backs, or have no way to reach out when there are recalls.

An alternative option: provide an easy, obvious way to subscribe to such notifications.

[d0gsg0w00f]

That's my point. They're likely doing it to minimize exposure risk for lawsuits.

[ryukoposting]

This is somewhat reassuring, but it also makes me question what exactly they're sharing that could facilitate the service you describe.

It sounds like an interesting business though, and one of only a couple examples I can think of where telematics could be used in the public interest.

[ac29]

> We use the data to find people with open recalls where Toyota doesn't know who the current owner is.

Shouldnt this be able to go through the State? My state informed me of a recall on a vehicle that I bought used.