[hirsin]

And when they autofill that value with 1, because they obviously got all of that data legitimately? Will consumers be asked to prove a negative?

Even test cases will run into data sharing issues.

[bryanrasmussen]

>And when they autofill that value with 1,

amazingly enough the law is more clever than programmers assume it is, and the clever dodges programmers come up with tend to be seen through and just lead to jail time.

Prime Exhibit - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser

[20after4]

I don't understand how Hans Reiser is an example of this. He was convicted of murder and nothing about his case (that I could find) seems to indicate that he used "clever dodges" to skirt the law.

[bryanrasmussen]

if one followed the case at the time Reiser seemed very much the stereotype of the really superclever person who figured they were smarter than all those dumb folks who were never going to catch him and it all fell apart real quick.

Then when it fell apart he dropped back to arguing he just looked guilty because he was too smart to look innocent or something https://yro.slashdot.org/story/08/02/23/2218256/hans-reiser-...

https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2010/08/02/review-from-a-report... >He thought he was smarter than everyone else, but ultimately he was not

[20after4]

I see what you mean. There is some nuance to that which wasn't captured in the Wikipedia article or my general awareness of the details about the case.