[timetopay]

Full self driving is a misleading name, Level 2 is not Level 5, Tesla is overpromising a solution, and I wouldn't consider something in "beta" that is safety critical to be considered shipping as GA.

[fragmede]

Its name, doesn't tell me how good it is. until I can buy a Tesla, give it a Lyft account, and have it go make me money driving for Lyft, it's not worth much to me.

[blitzar]

That version will be released by the end of the year (2019).

[Frantanata]

It's still a huge success.

[colesantiago]

Successful in being irresponsible and marketing 'Level 5' as 'Full Self Driving' while not actually being a Level 5 autonomous vehicle with mounting complaints about safety.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/25/23737972/tesla-whistleblo...

[wepple]

If it’s wildly overdue and only a fraction of what was promised, it’s a significant failure as a product.

It might be a great achievement if it hadn’t been hyped up well beyond what has been released

[Frantanata]

Whenever I see what it can do on some peoples YouTube, it's impressive as f.

And the backend structure with their AI model as well.

I'm not talking about marketing shit

[colesantiago]

This.

Instead what you have is Fool Self Driving as Tesla knows that it isn't fully autonomous yet, but still market it as such.

Intentionally misleading and irresponsible.

[beardyw]

There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.

George W. Bush