[zzzeek]

it's plagarizing other people's essays

[sandspar]

It's plagiarizing essays in the same way that I'm plagiarizing dinosaur breath by using the same air molecules.

[Phiwise_]

Where are the copyright lawsuits, then?

[neglesaks]

You've missed New York Times having sued OAI and Microsoft recently, and joined by several others?

[freedomben]

IANAL and I haven't dug deeply into the lawsuits, but my understanding is that using deliberate prompt engineering, they were able to get it to reproduce copyrighted material verbatim from its training set. That is obviously a problem, just as it would be if a human read the article and then reproduced part of it verbatim without attribution, but it's a very different argument than a blanket "everything AI generates is plagiarism"

[Phiwise_]

Precisely. These headline repetitions as arguments do get tiring after a while.

[zzzeek]

humans can have original ideas, since they possess reasoning ability, whereas large language models cannot, since they have none

[Phiwise_]

It doesn't? That's great! Why didn't you say so? And, of course, you have proof of that?