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by alienicecream 827 days ago
Adding another western European country that's under no threat from anyone to NATO isn't going to do anything. We should be adding backwards countries that share borders with or are targets of major enemies, like Georgia and Taiwan. You can't control the world if all you're doing is protecting yourself and your buddies from yourself and your buddies. We need to get Israel in NATO so that the next time Hezbollah fires a missile into an Israeli town we can finally invade Iran. We need to antagonize the other major powers by putting military bases in small countries all around their borders.
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> Adding another western European country that's under no threat from anyone to NATO isn't going to do anything.

Russia has threatened Sweden with nukes.

> We should be adding backwards countries that share borders with or are targets of major enemies

Sweden serves a very strategic purpose against Russia, the old enemy of USA, by making Östersjön a NATO sea and with the island of Gotland as a base.

> we can finally invade Iran

This is either irony or insanity. What good did the two previous US/Nato wars in the region accomplish? Very little if anything at all.

Imagine a world where the US had not sullied its international reputation by invading countries and killing hundreds of thousands.

It's a bit of a big ask to demand that slovenian soldiers to die for Taiwan , or the portuguese to kill more palestinians. international relations dont disappear by joining NATO, and the more it expands the more likely it is to increase discord.
We should form an org similar to NATO but for the Pacific. Why would Taiwan join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization?
While there are a dozen+ similarly named and functioning arrangements between states, I think with NATO's current expansion the name of "North Atlantic" means less of a geographical limiter and more of a euphemism for "Western Aligned" countries.

For example, Georgia is a candidate member, and it's technically in both Asia & Europe.

There is the American–Japanese–Korean trilateral pact signed in 2023. The US and South Korea, Philippines, and Japan have bilateral defense treaties.

The US used to have treaty with Taiwan. There was proposed NEATO in the 50s, but Korea wasn't over WW2, and Japan is defense-only in constitution.

The big problem is that signing defense treaty with Taiwan would require change to the status quo and probably kick off a war.