[bhpm]

The optics are also really, really bad. I recall putting my bags through a scanner and walking through a metal detector when I visited Beijing in 2018. My first thought was “wow, must suck to live in a police state like this, can’t even take transit without being searched.”

[galuggus]

the optics maybe be bad but violent crime is extremely low. I've never felt fear of being mugged or attacked in China.

[bhpm]

Your perception of your own personal safety is not an objective measure of crime and should not form the basis of a policing strategy.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-bragg-new-york-manhattan-ny...

“crime across the five boroughs is nowhere near the levels seen in the 1990s, and while there was a rise in 2022, those figures are already trending down this year.”

[rahimnathwani]

  Your perception of your own personal safety is not an objective measure of crime

FTFY

Reported crime is not an objective measure of crime and should not form the basis of a policing strategy.

When police cease to act on reports of crime, people have no incentive to report crime (except for major property crime which might be covered by insurance, and things like murder).

This is why we can't trust the crime stats where I live (San Francisco).

[bhpm]

Your response is logically inconsistent.

>Reported crime [...] should not form the basis of a policing strategy.

and:

>When police cease to act on reports of crime, people have no incentive to report crime.

Logically, then, reported crime should form the basis of a policing strategy, since it creates an incentive to report crime.

[rahimnathwani]

No. You're ignoring the time dimension.

Past policing strategy means that current crime stats are unreliable. These current crime stats should therefore not form the basis of a future policing strategy.

If we're optimizing for getting results today, policing strategy should not rely on the flawed crime stats we have today.

If we're optimizing for the long term, then sure rely on crime stats, but first make it easy to report crime.

[bhpm]

If it's so difficult to report crimes, wouldn't that mean that the crimes that are reported represent the most egregious, since the people who reported them overcame the difficulty in reporting to report the crimes? And, therefore, current policing strategy should -- indeed -- focus on the reported crimes while making it easier to report them?

[para_parolu]

The more totalitarian country is the more government protects monopoly on violence.