[toast0]

When I had AT&T fiber, they had an ONT and a Modem, the ONT was installed outside the house, styled like the NIDs for POTS. There was no fee for the ONT, but there was a rental for the "modem". Afaik, all the modem did was run 802.1x auth and do crappy NAT.

I understand that ATT has moved towards combining the ONT and Modem into a single piece of equipment.

[epcoa]

That "modem" is usually just called a router or residential gateway, as it is just plain Ethernet, WLAN tied together with some low cost SoC running Linux, in other words just like any other Wifi router you can pick up at a big box store. In AT&T's case, the keys were a cinch to pull from the device and you can run openwrt or pfsense or whatever on your own hardware, you don't even need to use it. Calling it a modem confuses the issue.

[mdon]

You can extract the certificate from the bgw210 and put it on a third party router. Then you don’t need the ATT modem at all. I did that last summer using this: https://github.com/mozzarellathicc/attcerts

[vel0city]

If their ONT and gateway are a single device it's not the BGW210. AT&T has been rolling out a newer gateway for over a year now.

[PopAlongKid]

BGW320 is what I got a year and a half ago, a single box.

[vel0city]

I've been on AT&T's internet for well over a decade and I've never had a rental cost line item on my bill for their gateway. Don't get me wrong I'm sure it's modeled into their pricing, but so is the ONT and all the rest of their hardware. It's never been a line item in my bill.

[PopAlongKid]

I've been on AT&T's internet for several decades (going back to ISDN), and although my current fiber internet service shows no device rental fee, for many years before that, I had a monthly "Internet Equipment Fee" of $7. This was for the 2Wire 3801HGV router (the AT&T specific model).

[tiffanyh]

I had AT&T Fiber installed last year, for me at least it was still two separate boxes.

But you have me curious now to see if I can get it as a single piece of equipment. Especially since I have my ONT installed inside the house (which is less common as you indicate).