[Rapzid]

> Fuck over their customers?

Yeah, I'm sorry you can't see that.

> There are so many reasons it's not easy or straight forward to open source the software of a startup that failed

I'm guessing zero effort was made to continue service for existing customers. If there were efforts made that failed, they would have mentioned it for PR.

> All that said: please, don't use new software or tools, avoid startups and steer clear of emerging technology, you'll feel less betrayed.

Doesn't change what happened.

> *I'm not a founder, never have been a founder, and never could be a founder.

Apparently you don't need to be to have a founder perspective.

[codezero]

> Yeah, I'm sorry you can't see that.

"Fuck over" to me implies malicious intent, if it doesn't to you then that may explain why we have differing points of view.

> Apparently you don't need to be to have a founder perspective.

How many startup founders have you worked closely with in your career when the company they ran was < 50 employees?

[theturtletalks]

Early on, my business relied heavily on Zapier in 2015 and they were just as big as Airplane at that point. If they sold the company and shut it down, I would swear never to do business with the parent company again. Yes I could migrate to something else or just code it if that were to happen, but that is a fuck over.

[Rapzid]

This is a bit late but yes, I believe you can "fuck over" people with a number of motivations that aren't necessarily "malicious".

For example I may be in a life boat with 5 other people and instead of adhering to rations I eat all the food or drink all the water. Because I can't control myself, I lack empathy, or I'm just incredible self-centered. Whatever the motivations I think many may describe what I did as "fucking over" everybody else.

[20after4]

Indifference can be malicious. Or at least it would qualify for fucking over the customers IMO. At least give them (and the employees) a bit more warning.