[kevinherron]

Yes, all of this Oracle Java licensing drama only applies if you're using the Oracle JDK.

The vast majority of people can just use a JDK from any of the other vendors and tell Oracle to pound sand.

Even if you do need paid support, you should pay Azul instead of Oracle, just out of principle.

[matrix87]

> Even if you do need paid support

By paid support, you mean free steak dinners for middle management?

After dealing with Azul people, give me Oracle. Instead of seeing Azul people shuffling a bunch of charts around and making up shit on the fly to make it sound like their garbage product performs better than OpenJDK (it didn't for us. we benchmarked it. but shame on us, because I guess the steak dinners kept rolling in).

Look at this website, do you think it belongs to a legitimate company? https://www.azul.com/

[kevinherron]

We have a contract with Azul that allows us to report bugs with the expectation they are fixed. We can and do use this ability.

[kragen]

also they can use the openjdk from oracle

[layer8]

Oracle doesn’t provide LTS updates. Each Oracle OpenJDK version is only supported for six months and doesn’t receive any further updates afterwards.

[kragen]

pretty sure you can get your openjdk lts updates from debian

[vetinari]

Those are Debian's (or Redhat's, or Fedora's) builds.

Oracle ones are exactly as layer8 wrote. Moreso, if you also need windows or macos build; there's no Debian or Redhat then.

[kragen]

true!