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by itake 836 days ago
When I am in situations like this, I try to focus on the process, not the outcome.

Find joy in applying for new jobs, learning about system design and algorithms, or doing practice interviews.

If you follow the process, you will find that job.

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On a side note, I would encourage you to not lower your pay or communicate you will accept lower pay, because its a signal to employers that you're desperate, no one wants you, and they too should be cautious to hire you. As one of my old favorite managers once told me, "when I gave you that offer, I wanted you to walk in on your first day smiling"

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> On a side note, I would encourage you to not lower your pay or communicate you will accept lower pay, because its a signal to employers that you're desperate, no one wants you, and they too should be cautious to hire you. As one of my old favorite managers once told me, "when I gave you that offer, I wanted you to walk in on your first day smiling"

While this is often true: (1) some employers really do want the cheapest labour — they're not people you want to work for for other reasons, but they will hire you, and if you're short of money, some is better than one

(2) It's unclear what the market rates are. I'm also job hunting*, and I've seen people confidently claim the "going rate" for my experience level is anywhere from €75k to €114k. My experience with pay has always been getting huge rises followed by people shocked by how small the number is.

* If anyone's interested in hiring me: iOS senior, Berlin, been doing iOS since the first iPod with retina display came out

Thank you for your words, I'm definitely trying to reframe this way and rekindle some interest in algorithms/design.

And yeah, I haven't obviously made that signal, but I have definitely applied for "lesser" companies that I wouldn't have otherwise.

>As one of my old favorite managers once told me, "when I gave you that offer, I wanted you to walk in on your first day smiling"

Is there more context to this? Did the manager want you to walk in smiling even though a low ball offer was accepted, or want you to walk in smiling because you felt you got a good offer you are happy with?

This was my second job. I went from making $55,000 per year to $70,000.

I think he wanted me to feel good with the offer that they gave me. I really enjoyed working with him along with my raise by leaving my previous job.