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by khokhol 832 days ago
That "peace deal" would have required that Ukraine permanently recognize Russian sovereignty over Crimea and the Donbas (on top of other concessions).

This is why Russia is called "expansionist". Because it likes to expand its territory.

Before Boris arrived to scupper it.

That's not what happened. I know you read some snippet somewhere that made it sound like that's what happened. But simply put, you're being played. And that's not actually what happened.
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argentier 832 days ago
Naftali Bennett (former Israeli premier): https://www.hungarianconservative.com/articles/current/russi...

Watch the interview if you don't like the source.

Ukrainian negotiator David Arahamiya: https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/official-john...

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lt4E0DiJts

More than snippets

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mopsi 831 days ago
Every link of yours is a well-known spin. For example, Bennett has clarified that his words have been taken out of context and misrepresented, and Arahamiya has said that no-one on Ukrainian side belived that Russian peace plan was genuine and not a stalling tactic.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to switch to sites that don't have "conservative" in their URL.

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argentier 831 days ago
"Clarified" -- yes he walked it back under intense pressure. His words were in a long podcast you can listen to.
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Wytwwww 831 days ago
Why would anyone want to listen to some nutjob propaganda podcast? Especially when it's long?
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mopsi 830 days ago
No, he said that his words were taken out of context and he never meant the things people like you try to attribute to him.
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khokhol 832 days ago
That's the spin of those two observers. But there was a lot to more to the actual chain of events at the time.

And lo and behold, the fact of two guys stating a certain narrative about those events (then embellished up a bit by the publications quoting them) does not make it so. Even the article you're citing about Arahamiya's version of events isn't so clear-cut about the matter (it says Boris's advice was but one factor among many) as you're making it out to be.

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