[sumeruchat]

Say that to corporate java writers. Language creates culture and this applies to human as much as computer.

[Sharlin]

The JavaEE APIs essentially set the example for everybody to then imitate. Of course it didn’t help that design patterns were in peak fashion. The Java core language is small, and most of the SE APIs aren’t particularly byzanthine. But EE then went all in for some reason.

[shrimp_emoji]

So my instinct to avoid Java at all costs wasn't irrational dysphoria after all!