[iamawacko]

There's a VW factory making gas vehicles pretty close to Berlin. I sorta understand where they're coming from (Tesla emits ~33 million tons of CO2 equivalent per year, and is significantly less efficient than bikes, public transport, or even some motorized vehicles), but this adventurism is at best having little impact, and they didn't really choose their target well.

[enslavedrobot]

The first Google search hit indicates Tesla emits ~200kMT of CO2 worldwide. Where do you get 150x that number from?

[iamawacko]

That's probably just scope 1 emissions, full lifecycle brings it to the number I gave.

The specific source was: https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/26/23697746/tesla-climate-po...

[panick21_]

The Berlin eco-leftist all beliefe in nonsense conspiricy nonsense and are very anti-US.

[nemo44x]

There's a lot of leftist disruption going on out there but it seems like the politicians only complain of a nonexistent "far right" bogeymen. Seems like endless destruction and defacement of private and public property and rioting, infrastructure sabotage, and disruption to free travel. And all of it justified through a delusional idea of justice or something.

[ben_w]

> complain of a nonexistent "far right" bogeymen

And there I was thinking they were complaining about things like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Potsdam_far-right_meeting

Or this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Halemba#Investigation_a...

[nemo44x]

That's just speech. There were no actions. Getting together to talk about political action if they were to get democratically elected is a lot different than blowing things up, interfering with travel, and destroying actual property, etc.

[ben_w]

Do you sincerely not understand that planning to break the law is itself illegal? That is literally where we get the meaning of the word "conspire" — to make secret plans jointly to commit an unlawful or harmful act, from latin "to breathe along with".

Likewise, second link was about someone getting arrested.

And now I'm remembering Sideshow Bob: "Imprisoned for a crime I didn't even commit. Attempted murder. Now honestly, what is that? Do they give a Nobel prize for attempted chemistry, do they?" — that's what you sound like.

[nemo44x]

Which laws were broke? A political group had a conversation regarding policy and most attendees agreed it wouldn’t be possible with acquiring more democratically elected power. And even then it may not be viable. There’s nothing wrong with that.

The other link is a guy doing Nazi things which is fine in most places although Germany has state controlled speech so it was problematic. But it’s just speech.

[panick21_]

I have to disagree. The waste majority of attacks on people are done by the far right. Its not even close. Property might be closer, but far right still likely ahead. So yes, by any rational metric 'far right' are the actual bogeymen.