[thepasswordis]

Not to mention that on cars like Tesla, UI updates will change the location of these buttons.

This drives me INSANE. The other one: some of the Tesla UIs feel like they were made with "minimalism" in mind. For instance the rear defroster vs the windshield defroster. I still, 3 years into my model Y, have no idea which is which, and every time I need to defrost the front windshield it's like a fight against the HVAC system and buttons and touchscreens to make it do anything.

I love my tesla, probably to the point of being annoying, but I **HATE** the ridiculous "minimalist" UI stuff, and I absolutely hate it when they push a UI update which moves things around.

[lelanthran]

How is it possible to love a car that does things you hate when there are other cars at the same price that does everything the object of your love does, and doesn't do the things you hate?

It sounds like an irrational love for the car.

[rsynnott]

It is legally required for all complaints about Tesla to start with "I love my car, but..."

(This is so near-universal that I vaguely suspect that there's a non-disparagement agreement you have to sign when you buy one).

[thepasswordis]

>other cars at the same price that does everything the object of your love does

Because there aren't? My tesla has FSD which I use for the majority of my driving, it looks cool, it's really fast, I really like the in dash display (just don't like UI updates, and some very specific parts of the HVAC controls).

This is such a funny question to me. Do you love your city? Is there *nothing* you dislike about it?

[speedgoose]

Which other car in the similar price range can fart on demand from the mobile app?

[Dylan16807]

What's your list of other cars that have the same charging network access and self-driving capabilities?

[lelanthran]

> What's your list of other cars that have the same charging network access and self-driving capabilities?

Well, the list of other cars that will kill you if you take your hands of the wheels is ... just about anything, right?

And then you're dead, so have no use for a charging network anyway, too.

So, basically, for just that one feature, you can use just about any other car.

The list is, essentially, everything else!

[Biganon]

And yet we drove those cars for 100 years, with our hands on the effin wheel.

[bboygravity]

Somebody read too much CNBC and/or NYT.

[Dylan16807]

What if I don't take my hands off.

[Vespasian]

In part Europe thew answer for the first is "all of them".

(And yes that works. I recently finished a 2k+ road trip in Germany and had no issues at all. Plug and charge worked flawlessly on every DC fast charger I visited. AC charging worked by swiping my RFID card).

[teruakohatu]

Why do you love a car with anti-features that annoy you so much? I am genuinely curious, as I have only driven a Tesla once or twice.