[throwaway343233]

Sundar needs to go, period. All these articles undersell how bad the morale is at Google right now. It has been unpopular change after unpopular change, and Googlers have zero trust in the leadership. There's zero psychological safety anymore, and the environment is basically like this[1], but actually worse because even the "sister" teams in the same org are being very territorial.

I don't think the next person is going to be better (because they'll be appointed by the very same board), but Google needs a change at the top.

[1] https://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/201...

[satvikpendem]

Why would he go? Based on the stock price (which is what the board looks at when finding a new CEO), he's doing amazingly. It sucks for employees but unfortunately they have no say in how their CEO is chosen.

[glimshe]

He is not doing amazingly based on the stock price. We can't compare Google to General Motors or Procter & Gamble, we have to compare it with Microsoft, Meta, NVIDIA, Apple, Amazon, etc which are companies in businesses adjacent to Google. When looking at its peers, Google is mediocre at best.

[satvikpendem]

150% since he took the CEO role is quite substantial.

[bananapub]

er what?

he's been CEO for 9 years, in the hottest tech market in history, taking over probably the most successful tech company in history.

it's also apparently ~less than the S&P return from 2015 - 2023: https://www.officialdata.org/us/stocks/s-p-500/2015?amount=1...

[yaeng54]

The stock doing well doesn't seem to actually suck for employees paid largely with stock grants. At least I suppose many on the outside will be thinking that as they question why the employees are complaining so much.

[satvikpendem]

Indeed, by that metric he's doing quite well.

[jsnell]

The share price isn't doing well though. Their peer companies have been growing in value faster on both short and long timescales. Their P/E is also quite low compared not only to other big tech companies, but even large companies in general.

And that's at a time when Google should have been doing a victory lap, as a decade of bleeding edge research into AI pays off.

[O1111OOO]

> All these articles undersell how bad the morale is at Google right now... Googlers have zero trust in the leadership.

Not being combative but how would you know?

The articles that have come out have been as opinionated. Many like to see a company they dislike, fail in some way. Many others who view Google pushing an agenda can also being pushing their own agenda. It's hard to say what motivates people to make unfounded statements.

Are you in a position within Google to quantify the statements you've made?