[Mz]

But there are causes for leaky syndrome and they are treatable. And leaky gut at least tells you descriptively what is happening. Auto immune simply assumes the body mysteriously attacks itself, for no apparent reason.

Anyway, thank you for the feedback. It fits with some things I know and is something I can follow up on.

[mike_organon]

Why do you think "mysteriously" is part of the definition of auto-immune? If we don't know what causes a particular auto-immune response doesn't make it not auto-immune.

[Mz]

My condition gets referred to that way. It doesn't make sense to me as a mental model. Unfortunately, I have had a really long day so probably cannot explain my views in an effective manner.