[theptip]

Exactly. I think it’s misguided to blame Meta or Google here. People respond to incentives, and the masses want to buy stuff using e-commerce, hence it’s profitable.

I’m oversimplifying, but that’s the root of it. If people instead of buying things from ads were looking for the best ways to purchase offsets for CO2 emissions, then the best minds would be working on that problem.

[spencerflem]

Right, that's not going to happen though for pretty obvious reasons.

Governmental incentives and carbon taxes can make more jobs in CO2, but expecting individual citizens to solve a collective action problem is doomed.

At the same time, I think it is fair to ask people to look at what they're doing for/to the world and decide if that's something that fits their values. 300k salary is nice, but almost certainly not something you need

[theptip]

By the same token, you are asking people to introspect and unilaterally sacrifice in a way that, for the same reason, is not going to happen for pretty obvious reasons.

I’m on board with solving this at the governmental level FWIW. I support stronger anti-trust enforcement for example (and not just targeting tech).

[spencerflem]

Oh yeah totally. I think its easier to do so for one single rarely made decision than a bunch of small ones every day. From like, a practical perspective if you wanted to make one sacrifice that's the one I'd reccomend.

But yea govt level would solve it much better