[ExoticPearTree]

Wait until the world finds out that most Israeli tech founders have roots in Unit 8200 ;) And a lot of US companies were founded through known CIA fronts.

Military roots or no, in the end every company must obey the laws of the country they’re founded first and foremost, and then try not to break the laws of the countries they operate in. This is the reality. Just like AT&T can be compelled to spy on X, Y; so can any other company be compelled by their government.

And this idea that western spying is good and Chinese spying is bad… its ludricuous. Spying is just bad.

[seanmcdirmid]

It isn’t that Chinese spying is somehow less virtuous than American spying, it’s more why take the chance? The only reason China ever bothered with Cisco or Nortell at all was to copy their tech, but China wouldn’t let an overseas tech come in today to drive their cellphone network today. They would think that’s just stupid. But when America does the same they cry bloody murder.

[ExoticPearTree]

Well, US has zero domestic 5G equipment manufacturers. So it is not really a question of China managing US mobile networks.

And Nokia/Ericsson/Samsung could have won the 5G core bids if the pricing structure and/or features were better than Huawei’s.

Not defending Huawei, but considering how the US market works… they won pretty fairly.

In the end customers will pay the price of “China bad”. And most likely tax payers for all the subsidies governments will telcos to remove Huawei equipment from their networks.

[anotheruser13]

Reminds me of this incident: https://www.npr.org/2019/01/29/689663720/a-robot-named-tappy...

The article refers to T-Mobile US, which is majority owned by Deutsche Telekom.

[seanmcdirmid]

Isn’t Qualcomm American? Also, Cisco, HPE, etc…