[cityofdelusion]

There’s no reason to get an oil change at a dealer, it exists solely to upsell on other services. New cars under warranty can get a 15 minute oil job just fine, it’s removing one bolt and reinstalling it for 99% of cars.

[ein0p]

It’s not just an oil change with ICE cars either - they run the diagnostics, fix the various recalls, and maintain your service record. Cars are very complicated nowadays, especially hybrid ones, it’s cheaper to catch problems early. Plus it’s free for the first 3 years if one values their time at $0/hr.

Only on HN will people argue that spending a day or two a year on something as stupid and unnecessary as refueling and car maintenance is worthwhile.

[nytesky]

The car spends the day doing maintenance, I drop it off and they drop me off at home. I telework, then they pick me up and I get my car.

I imagine the aggregate time spent on engine maintenance is no more than the aggregate extra charging time you have to attend to when not at home?

[theshackleford]

> Only on HN will people argue that spending a day or two a year on something as stupid and unnecessary as refueling and car maintenance is worthwhile.

Probably because you’re inventing scenarios in your head that only apply to you.

[lotsofpulp]

> Only on HN will people argue that spending a day or two a year on something as stupid and unnecessary as refueling and car maintenance is worthwhile

You are arguing that, even after being told it is not true. And then you select a known high maintenance brand to keep arguing it, which makes your motive sound disingenuous.

[dragontamer]

I never understood people who complained about oil changes.

Do... people not rotate their tires or something? EVs are heavier and therefore have more tire-wear. Its probably more important to rotate those tires.

Oil Change + Tire Rotation is pretty typical service. Even if you get rid of oil changes, the tires still should go around-and-round.

[ein0p]

I never even heard of tire rotation before I moved to the US.

[dragontamer]

Tire performance degenerates greatly the more they wear out.

*Especially* wet-weather performance. 2/32nds an inch is the legal end of tires but by this point you are taking twice the distance to stop the car.

https://cdn.discounttire.com/sys-master/images/hfb/h15/89828...

The front tires has more weight (especially when braking: the weight shifts forward due to momentum). If you want the front tires to perform better, you need to have longer treads / less-worn-out tires, especially in wet weather.

[seanmcdirmid]

BMW recommends not rotating tires on performance vehicles, since back and front tires are different anyways. I guess that means we are just going to have less life on our tires, but regenerative braking should help at least.

[dragontamer]

> regenerative braking

That still puts the same stresses on the tire as regular braking.

[brtkdotse]

I’m guessing it’s because AFAIK most people don’t have a separate set of winter tyres which means you automatically rotate them twice a year.