[rstuart4133]

I'm using KDE on Debian / Wayland because I was forced to [0]. I moved to it from from Gnome, which I was forced to use for similar reasons.

I can't believe it, but I badly miss the "Super" (Windows logo) button on KDE not behaving the same was as Gnome. On KDE Ctrl-F9 does the same thing, but after using Gnome that function became "the" way I flipped between hidden Windows. The "Super" button is right place for it, Ctrl-F9 is far too fiddly. The task bar I was brought up in in my Windows / Mac days is just hopeless for task switching in comparison. The rest of KDE (particularly it's configurability) is better than Gnome, of course.

Except for bugs. KDE has so many UI glitches and bugs compared to Gnome. It drives me nuts. I might give Plasma 6 a go, but if the bug situation hasn't improved I will be moving onto something else. These bugs have nothing to do with Wayland per se.

[0] I have a Thinkpad X1 extreme gen 2. A beautiful laptop on paper also in person because it's 4K OLED screen, but I'd never have another one. Charging from the USB-C connector is a lottery - but can be made to work with enough reinsertions. The 4K screen is scratched by the keyboard because the keys touch when closed. On the gen 2 they pushed the external video path through the Nvidia card. You can get an external monitor to work if you hold your head just the right way. With Debian 11 the right was to run Wayland, and only Gnome supported it well. With Debian 12, the right way is to boot using Gnomes display manager (gdm3) with Wayland, wait until the monitor sync's, then login using your KDE Wayland desktop. If for example you use Gnome as your desktop all you get is blank screens. Other combinations all fail in their own unique ways.

[woodrowbarlow]

i'm in a similar boat -- i miss being able to tap the super key. i don't mind that the defaults are different, but i'm sad that (since it's considered a modifier key) KDE doesn't allow it to be bound on tap. this prevents me from replicating Gnome's behavior.

[emilsedgh]

You can do that. I'm not on KDE right now but basically there's 2 steps:

1. You can go to System Settings -> Keyboard and there, enable Super key to act as another button.

2. Set the shortcut to that another button.

[Per_Bothner]

On Gnome, the Super (Windows) key does an Expose (show windows reduced-size and non-overlapping) and lets you launch applications (and more). On KDE 5, the Super key brings up the Application Launcher, which is nice. And Super+W (which isn't too painful to type) does an Expose. But it would be nice if there was an option for Super to do an Expose and bring up Application Launcher.

[rstuart4133]

Yeah, the Gnome Super key hit the sweat spot for me too. As you say, all the things you wanted the desktop to do are available from that one easy to reach button - swapping between windows, pick something from the launcher menu and text search the applications. KDE has so many configuration options it can emulate just about everything Gnome does - but it can't mimic that exactly.

Gnome (and systemd) seems to want to emulate macOS mostly, and as user of macOS I'm not sure why you would want to do that. But macOS has nothing that matches Super key exactly - so well done to Gnome for that innovation.

[walteweiss]

That button makes me consider whether my sway setup is worth it, as sometimes I think Gnome can achieve something similar. And even with less cognitive load, sometimes!

[Intralexical]

The "Overview" effect has all of that except for a launcher grid, I believe?

[Intralexical]

The "Overview" effect does all that. Switch window, switch desktop, launch apps, drag windows to different desktops and monitors, etc. In KDE5 it appears to be in the list under Workspace→Workspace Behavior→Desktop Effects→Window Management. …I think I may have had to edit `kwinrc` to get it to bind to just Meta without another key, though:

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1391793/kde-5-24-overview-la...

https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/wl29ub/comment/ijrr6w0...

[goosedragons]

The LEFT super key does that. The right one does not because who knows. Sorry it's just something I really hate about Gnome.

[woodrowbarlow]

thank you! this is why i posted my comment. :) couldn't find this on google.

[EasyMark]

It's pretty easy to reassign/unassign keys however you like.