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by spiderfarmer 839 days ago
Why do you think so?
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> Moving towards an autocracy at a rapid pace

Can be said for UK, France at least. Current UK prime minister is basically a guy who was parachuted in after the previous nominee was couped by her own party, France massively reformed the pension system last year by using a legal hack. Germany we'll see where it is in a year.

> Large part of electorate to cheer it on

When parties that are "far-right" (as labelled by mainstream media) are above 20% in most countries sure seems like we are getting there (given that most of these parties like RN, AfD, Vox, etc are branded as anti-democratic/autoritarian).

>Gerrymandering and propaganda

I mean in France 2 of the biggest TV stations (BFM/Cnews) are billionaire owned and run a certain line. Same can be said in UK(Skynews). Germany has dark money campaigns exactly like the US, only you don't hear about them(because all the money goes to CDU/CSU).

>Two party system

I guess this is the European innovation, but with the concept of Brandmauer/Cordon Sanitaire you effectively have that any opposition party can be frozen out of government by the "establishment" parties.. I don't care that CDU/CSU and SPD are 2 different parties when they basically switch between each other for the last 20 years. Same thing was the case with PS/LR in France.

I am not familiar with Nordic countries, they are probably fine, but in the heartland stuff is not going in the democratic direction. And I didn't even mention countries like Poland, Hungary, etc.

I agree with you on most points. But none of the countries have a candidate that publicly admires is yearning to please dictators, who says that "presidency for life" sounds "pretty great" and who talks about political opponents as "enemies", who "have to be dealt with". The simple fact that another violent upheaval at the next election would surprise no one, is a dead giveaway that the USA is on a very dangerous trajectory.

https://www.npr.org/2023/12/19/1220443867/trump-s-rhetoric-i...

I understand your sentiment. I just don't think that thinking that we in Europe have it a lot better than the US simply because we did not yet get a person with Trump's BSing skills is very prudent, given that the directions that our systems are headed to seem to be very similar.

A politician with Trump's Reality Distortion Field is bound to arrive in Europe within the next decade or so, at which point it will be the same thing.

So it's not the exact same thing. Yet.