[adamlarsson78]

Either you are naive or disingenious. "Great for subsistence seekers" is a dog whistle for a neoliberal political agenda.

Aspiration seeking and the desire for a strong social system are not mutually exclusive. Whether somebody cares about there being a social safety net for themselves and everybody around them does not indicate how aspirational they themselves are but correlates positively with empathy and negatively with egocentrism.

> That is not at all controversial.

It's a false dichotomy and as a way to cast the comparison it is quite obviously controversial.

[dang]

Please don't post in the flamewar style to HN, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

Please especially don't cross into name-calling or personal attacks.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.