[pdinny]

I'd like to hear the fully-fleshed out position about why these particular examples are an indication of some broader, deeper problem. If possible, please do not use the word "woke" as a shorthand, explain it in full. Same for DEI.

Is there some suggestion that these obviously wrong examples are intentionally ahistorical or intended to erase history? Is this a plot of some kind? How common are these issues relative to all the other images being produced? Apparently the tool seems to be reluctant to produce images of white people at all. What should the appropriate frequency of white people be? That last one is a serious question that should be answered with an actual number, because that is the central concern here (unless I'm mistaken).

What seems very likely to me, is that in an attempt to not make the tool embarrassingly only produce images of white people they overshot. Bear in mind for a second, that for anybody who isn't white and is trying to generate an image of a person doing a thing (with no historical context to infer a race for that person) it would possibly be deeply frustrating to only get images of white people.

[gspetr]

>Apparently the tool seems to be reluctant to produce images of white people at all.

It's not that. It would have been one thing that when you said "I want a picture of 4 doctors" for the tool not to generate any white doctors at all.

The issue here is that I've read numerous reports of people saying that when they _explicitly_ specified something to the effect of "I want a picture of 4 _white_ doctors" it would straight up refuse them on the spot.

The latter is _not_ a training weights issue.

This is the broader, deeper problem.

[verticalscaler]

Why has this thread been silently disappeared from the front page as it entered the top 10? Thanks

[supriyo-biswas]

Typically this is the flame war detector, which looks at comment:vote ratio, among other things.

Hacker News is more of a library where people come to read stuff, and isn’t really a place for political battles like the one happening here. Usually a moderator will manually disable the flame war detector for a thread if there is some hope for it. But it is doing its job as far as I’m concerned, because this thread isn’t really the kind that motivates intellectual curiosity.