[the_jeremy]

> Additionally, coach them to figure out how to find other avenues for their autonomy and choice. (In the desk move case: how will they decorate it? What day of the week could they start the move? How will they celebrate as a team once the move is checked off the list?) These should be realistic and doable, and will hopefully help address this core need.

Having extreme difficulty taking this as a serious suggestion.

[johnny_canuck]

It would work for a toddler, not sure it would work as well for a grown up. But then again, IME there is quite an overlap between the two...

[sibit]

> IME there is quite an overlap between the two...

Do you think there is an equation where the larger the company the more they treat the employees like toddlers? I've primarily worked for small companies where management treated the employees like adults. They expected us to be professionals so they treated us as such. Sometimes that meant they provided just enough rope for someone to hang themselves but for the most part, it worked pretty well.

As I've moved to bigger companies it seems as though management treats the employees more and more like children. The HR department is especially notorious for treating people like toddlers. I find it odd and a bit frustrating. I don't think I could be easily convinced that anyone within my team, department, or adjacent departments could be equated to children yet the actions and tone of management makes me think otherwise.

[dudul]

I have observed the same thing.

I dont know if there is an equation, but it think it just comes from bloated HT department. There is only so much Facebook and Instagram browsing that HR folks can do in one day, eventually they have to do some form of work. This translates into policies, forced trainings, migration from an HR system to another, etc etc.

HR is usually the team most disconnected from the rest of the company. They don't know what the company sells/produces. They don't know what are the important projects/deadlines in flight. They just do their thing.

[lmm]

IME no, there's no correlation. There are companies of all sizes with all kinds of cultures.

[op00to]

I’d totally feign an existential desk moving crisis if I could get a pizza party out of the deal.

[pavel_lishin]

Yeah, this is advice I give to parents of toddlers.