[tastyfreeze]

> subsidize their own training working 60-80 hours a week [1] and being paid maybe $20-25/hr for 3-7 years while the hospitals make money from their services

That sounds like an apprenticeship. Many other industries do exactly that. Why should doctors be different?

[LunaSea]

Because you don't work 60 to 80 hours a week during an apprenticeship.

[verteu]

But why must medical residency require 60 to 80 hours per week of work? AFAICT, it's because residencies are competitive, because there aren't enough of them, because nobody wants to pay for them. (But you can't make them unpaid, because, by circular logic, they require 60 to 80 hours per week.)

As an outsider, the whole system seems completely bizarre to me.

> [AMA president] Dr. Richard Corlin has called for re-evaluation of the training process, declaring "We need to take a look again at the issue of why the resident is there."

[LunaSea]

They don't but it's the current situation nonetheless because medical students are at the mercy of their resident doctors.

If you don't do it, they will sack you, fail you or you won't find a job there.

[bradleyjg]

It’s at the intersection of the medical cartel and the credential cartel. A giant pile of suck.