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by paulpauper 849 days ago
Experts predict 'good times will not last', and yet with a few exceptions like 2008 or 2022, prices tend to go up anyway. There is little evidence to suggest market timing works. Stock prices seemed overextended in 1996 and yet would go up for another 4 years.
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This method seems to work pretty well: https://www.philosophicaleconomics.com/2013/12/the-single-gr...

Unique in that it seems statistically verified. Here’s an up-to-date version of the projection: https://financial-charts.effingapp.com/

OK soooooo.... Prediction is there is going to be a correction as % holding stocks are currently close to an all-time high. So what asset am I buying right now?
I don't know enough to be able to comment on the content, but am nonetheless extremely skeptical that this person managed to find something that

> predicts the market’s future long-term returns better than any other classic valuation metrics to date developed–price to earnings (P/E), price to book (P/B), price to sales (P/S), CAPE, q-ratio, Market Cap to GDP, Fed

Do not use the word "verified" here.
>Experts predict 'good times will not last', and yet with a few exceptions like 2008 or 2022, prices tend to go up anyway. There is little evidence to suggest market timing works.

It took a long time for me to accept this. Go back and look at the S&P historically for any date you'd like, and it always looks like we're teetering on the edge of an abyss. That's just the nature of economic growth.

society is a never ending ponzi, as long as people keep having kids.
Hey! Those were the last two times I invested in the market, saw my investment diminish and stopped paying attention. For what it's worth, I am putting money in again, so let's see.. lol.

Edit. Oh .. I also invested just before the dot com crash. I looked at the historical charts and can't believe my timing.

"Investing", assuming you are regularly employed, shouldn't be a thing you only do at certain rare times. You should put a part of every paycheck into whatever investments match with your risk tolerance. They way you eliminate the risk that you put a big lump sum into the market right before a crash.
I haven't been regularly investing for a few years as I've been saving up for a downpayment. Is that a sound plan?
You should be investing in a low risk, high-liquidity market (treasury, money market) when saving up.

But anyway it is a reasonably sound plan for what you are doing.

Like bonds? When we talk about liquidity, aren't something like questrade ETF's for bonds like VAB.TO for example pretty liquid? I can just sell them any day fairly easily. Then again, the interest rate of my bank is probably more than that right?
You can sell stock any day too, it's just not guaranteed you get out what you put in. What you needs is short-term bond so that you aren't stuck with the interest rate risk (when prevalent interest rate changes, your bond value changes too). Just to make a concrete example, if you buy VAB.TO in 2020, and you want your money now in 2024, you're currently down 20% from your purchase.

You need short-term bond (6-month, 1-month or even shorter) so that at worst you will get 100% of your money out by waiting for the maturity date. Money-market would be super short term: consider them as days-length bond.

But if we are talking about down payment money here, it's probably 100-200k something, which would translate to a few thousand dollars per year. Might not be worth your time, and definitely not worth it if you misunderstand and buy ETF bond or something like that. So yeah, keep it in a high-interest rate saving account is ok.

Very few people have the luxury/privilege of investing at their risk tolerance.