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by teen 843 days ago
maybe you're just allergic to glyphosate, not wheat. glyphosate is in pretty much everything now
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This might be true for people in general, but people who have been diagnosed with Celiac disease are definitely allergic to wheat.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945755/ "Glyphosate, pathways to modern diseases II: Celiac sprue and gluten intolerance"

Here, we propose that glyphosate is the most important causal factor in this [celiac disease and gluten intolerance] epidemic.

Don’t forget this awesome quote: “However, a recent paper (Samsel & Seneff, 2013), argued that glyphosate may be a key contributor to the obesity epidemic and the autism epidemic in the United States, as well as to several other diseases and conditions, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, infertility, depression, and cancer.”

It’s causing all the bad things? That would be amazing if true, unfortunately it sounds unlikely (chiropractic comes to mind) and the rest of the science world doesn’t believe these authors.

If the graphs in the paper seem compelling, make sure to spend some time here: https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

Did you read the paper? My guess is no.

Classic HN, references a paper as if the conclusions are fact and all references are equivalent.

This is a paper where the authors did no experiments of their own, just put forth a hypotheses.

The lead author is an “independent scientist”.

Suffice to say I’d be very suspect of the conclusions drawn.

> The lead author is an “independent scientist”.

The other one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephanie_Seneff

Ooph…

“In 2011, she began publishing controversial papers in low-impact, open access journals on biology and medical topics; the articles have received "heated objections from experts in almost every field she's delved into,"”

Not wheat, gluten

edit: for the downvotes, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease

> where individuals develop intolerance to gluten

> Coeliac disease is caused by a reaction to gluten

> While the disease is caused by a permanent intolerance to gluten proteins,[10] it is distinct from wheat allergy, which is much more rare

Not even gluten, one of the peptides it is composed of. Prolamins like gliadin, horadin, etc. depending on the grain. This is why gluten denaturing proteases aren't sufficient to protect a celiac, and thus some technically GF foods aren't necessarily safe.
My impression has been that the real problems are:

1. The enzymes are not yet well tested.

2. Most enzymes one might purchase are subject to the extremely weak US supplement labeling laws and thus cannot be trusted.

In any case, there’s an enzyme combo working its way through the FDA process right now:

https://celiac.org/about-the-foundation/featured-news/2021/0...

Interesting! Tell me more! Do you have any sources where I can read more about this?
I have celiac disease. When I eat foods that contain gluten or a similar protein, avenin, it triggers an immune reaction which causes inflammation and damage in my intestines. It's not an allergy, it's not a wheat allergy, it's not a glyphosate allergy. You may keep your uninformed opinion.