[DoesntMatter22]

Oh I've heard it from adults before. Were they acting like children? Sure. Even so, in the past, children were working pretty hard themselves to try to eek out an existence with their parents and the concept of life being unfair because you couldn't have a device wasn't even a thought.

[johnchristopher]

> Even so, in the past, children were working pretty hard themselves to try to eek out an existence with their parents and the concept of life being unfair because you couldn't have a device wasn't even a thought.

Damn Fair Labor Standards Act and that pesky National Child Labor Committee and that man, am I right ?

edit, because it scratches me:

> Sure. Even so, in the past, children were working pretty hard themselves to try to eek out an existence with their parents and the concept of life being unfair because you couldn't have a device wasn't even a thought.

Don't know which specific past you are referring to but I'd venture to guess that there were far fewer of such inaccessible goods though.

Anyway. I'd rather live in a present where children (and adults ?) think life is unfair because they can't have an iPhone than a present in which children are forced to work in coal mines or plants so their whole family don't die from starvation.

That's not what's wrong with the world today.

[DoesntMatter22]

Never once did I say that that is what is wrong with the world today.

[johnchristopher]

Either I misread you or you at least implied it's a problem though:

> This sums up so well the current state of the world. Quality of life is relatively high so people expect a lot.

> [..]

> Now life js unfair if you can't afford the latest iPhone.

Or maybe you agree life is unfair if you can't afford the latest iPhone, I don't know.

Apart from that... what's with the fixation on iPhones from people who bash on the poor and the supposed entitled ? Reading other threads iphones are the best bang for bucks (resale and quality, costs less per day than an android equivalent flagship or something) and then there's that TP quote "A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.”" that is brought a lot... wouldn't that justify people complaining about not being able to buy quality stuff ?

Or is an iphone quality stuff for rich people but extravaganza for the poor ?

> Now life js unfair if you can't afford the latest iPhone. Not a criticism of OP, because indie startup stuff is very hard, relativly.

Or life is unfair for people who tried indie startup stuff but not the other people.

Is this a tribal thing ? A peer thing ?

Whatever.

[johnnyanmac]

I mean, spoiled people are spoiled no matter what year. It's not the best representation of an entire population.

I think it's more about how the current generation can't afford a lot of what the previous one had or even took for granted. Housing, education, the process of procurring a career; a few things that changed so radically that it creates a generational divide among contemporaries.

[DoesntMatter22]

I think there was a very short time in human history where it was "the good life" where it was affordable and that was basically the 50s to the early 90s.

Other than that in human history things have been extremely hard.