[walidthedream]

If you get satisfied with a 60k gross salary as an engineer wherever you are in Europe you should maybe question yourself unless you’re full remote in a Bulgarian country side. Cars cost the same everywhere, same goes for flight tickets , electronics, top universities tuition, major food or fashion brands, etc etc.

[rpigab]

I dunno, it's kinda nice to get an engineering Master of Science equivalent for 600€ per year in a good public school (private school doesn't mean better school), with heavily subsided rent if you need it, then go to work and have zero debt, get social security, have kids and childcare is also subsidized, and you can't get fired without a reason, and when you do get fired you get a portion of your salary for months, which is so good that many people get fired on purpose.

I get way less than 60k gross in France, but apart from the house that I had to buy kinda small because it's close to a big city, it's nice. Many people around me have it worse, and I'm not sure if it would be a great idea to give everyone around the globe the purchasing power of an average American.

[walidthedream]

Wake up buddy. You have well learned the French socialist propaganda lesson. Unemployment in France since our 4 latest presidents have become aligned with California (around 180 days max). Ie capped in amount and limited in time. I don’t doubt many people around you have it worse.

Heavily subsidized rent ?? Where do you live in a social housing project ? What an ambition for an engineer graduate from a so called good public school ! What has this country become frankly to be happy with heavily subsidized rents ? I guess it comes half of the time with drug dealers in the entrance hall, or am I wrong and you have an included gym and swimming pool in the building ? In that case I understand why you have zero debt for sure you don’t own the place where you live because at 15k per sq meter in Paris you can’t own anything decent for 60k salary. Social security ? Let me laugh, unless if you compare it to UK’s NHS or 3rd world system, I hope you will never experience the French hospitals Emergencies admissions. Just compare it to Spain and you’ll see how miserable things have become. And I’m not talking about medications shortages, +6months wait time to see a specialist, generalists that refuse new patients, etc. Subsidized child care ? I guess you have no clue about what a proper child care system works, ask your colleagues from Northern Europe and they’ll tell you. I guess you didn’t check the news about what’s going on inside those public creches. It’s as good as what’s happening in French retirement homes. But you’re probably cool because you were told it was cool.

[rpigab]

So, the American dream it is?

[Hamuko]

Cars (especially accounting for total ownership costs), tuition and food definitely do not cost the same everywhere.

[walidthedream]

Oh yeah true I would welcome the opportunity to move in a country where the Starbucks coffee costs 2 dollars and a Mercedes cost 15k USD.

[ilkke]

Looks like you missed rent, healthcare and public transport in your list there.

For anyone wondering how relevant is public transport, in Sydney I couldn't do anything without a car, in Vienna I can't find a good use for one.