[neom]

Interesting to read you say that, last time I posted on here that climate change was a major component of my wife and I deciding not to have children, a bunch of people pissed all over that, and I was surprised because It thought it was relatively pragmatic?

[abyssin]

In 2010 I met a guy who told me that for environmental reasons it's not okay to use planes. I knew about environmental issues before, but I'd say that was the point in time when I started to see climate change as a serious issue, and my view of the future became pessimistic because of it. For a few years I was certain I'd never have children. Then I thought life has been hard for most of my ancestors, way harder than it's going to be for my children. Is a hard life still worth living? I now think so, and I have two children. I respect people's choice not to have children (by the way, it's going to make the world easier for my own), but I think for some childfree people, one of the motivations is rooted in the same individualistic values as the values fueling consumerism and the contemporary Western lifestyle. I think they view their life as their own, and not something they share with the past and the future.

[BrandoElFollito]

I often think that my ancestors all the way back to amoeba were ass kill fighters and heroes. They made it through dinosaurs, tigers, viruses, wars, famines, black plague, again wars and finally the 70's - and here I am.

I would prefer, though, they my children are not forced to go through this. It is to late now, though (sorry boys)

[BrandoElFollito]

I'm disappointed nobody pointed out the dinosaurs thing.

[BrandoElFollito]

I fail to understand why this would piss off people. Everyone has their opinion and can discuss the pros or cons but making it a heated fight is beyond me. We are not taking about Go vs. Rust! (which is indeed an important topic and all these people who are wrong by being on the Rust side, I just pity them with dedain :) :) <- look, I put two smileys, do not kill me please

[abhiyerra]

Seems you are against the climate if you are with Go. https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/opensource/sustainability-with-... I kid, I kid :)

[BrandoElFollito]

This is FAKE NEWS. A lot of people say that AWS is saying this because Go is from Google. It's true, it's true. It's a conspiracy and covefefe

[OccamsMirror]

The problem, as I see it, is if everyone does the same then people really won’t care about the long term survival of the planet or species because they have no skin in the game. May as well rape and pillage the planet because there’s literally no downside for you. You’ll be dead with no children to care about.

[vasco]

If only we could know how people without children behave. If only there were some around to see if in fact they just decide to eschew society and become destructive as you predict.

[BrandoElFollito]

Looking at the birth rate, we don't have shortage of children.

I do not understand your point about killing and raping in the context of not having children. You must live in the writing neighborhood of this is the correlation you see attend you.

[asadotzler]

But everyone does't do that and it's absolutely silly to suggest they will so your alarmism just that.

[richrichie]

I respect your choice. I wish more of the people who feel passionate about saving the earth led by example like this.

[BrandoElFollito]

Lead by example by having children you mean?

[richrichie]

i meant not having children.

[BrandoElFollito]

Ah ok - I got lost in the indents of the thread while on mobile.