[roneythomas6]

FireTV 4k max is pretty descent and costs a fraction of Apple TV.

[1letterunixname]

I have a 2nd gen Fire TV 4K Max gathering dust you can have. It's slow as fuck and barely faster than the first one. All Fire TV devices I've seen are slow, laggy, and shitty.

[roneythomas6]

Can you send it to me? I have an iptv business and we have new customers always looking for FireTV 4K max stick.

[lostmsu]

Where can I get it?

[1letterunixname]

Amazon has sales regularly. They basically give them away. $19 is the usual sale price.

[lostmsu]

I was referring to

> gathering dust you can have

[gigglesupstairs]

I’ve had Five stick 4k for almost five years now as well and its performance still holds pretty good.

[wcfields]

Same, but it’s been tanking the past year with the huge amount of bloat Amazon keeps shoveling onto it.

As a side note, my Insignia TV (best buy store brand) with fire tv built in is basically unusable.

Echoing a previous comment I made too, about “smart tvs” and the “streaming sticks”:

Hey, have you ever thought of why even the $149 Black Friday loss-leader no-name-brand TVs all have Amazon Fire, Roku, or are now "Smart" in some way? Certainly isn't because they need to incentivise you to connect it to the internet so it acts as a Nielsen-esq measurement device of all media you view on the screen via digital fingerprints that exist in all commercial media and advertisements. [1][2] [1] https://www.ispot.tv/ [2] https://www.samba.tv/