[deaddodo]

Three of the four aforementioned distros all offer first class KDE variants. Fedora KDE is considered one of the best KDE distros. Or you can recommend OpenSuse, Kubuntu, etc for an even simpler out of box experience.

Jumping to Manjaro/Arch as a first is a terrible idea, and more likely to frustrate new users away from Linux.

[oohffyvfg]

> arch frustrate users

i disagree. linux is a learning experience in itself. just don't tell people to fdisk disk alone right from the beginning. but that's the beauty of rolling distros. help them once and mostly forget :)

you accept software is not eternal and bugs are there. instead of accepting blue screens/spinning beachball/etc as facts of life, you understand they are like idiot lights on your car dashboard. instead of ignoring you take your car to a mechanic, who will tell you something obvious had you read the manual.

Linux is the same. you see a crash, you message the friend who told you to use Linux or google the error. yeah, it's annoying, but only if you live in neverland were comercial software have no bugs.

and again, ubuntu/rh/etc does nothing but try to push this lie to opensource.

[deaddodo]

Don't rephrase me to suit your narrative/argument. What kind of garbage person does that?

I said:

> more likely to frustrate new users away from Linux.

Because, as little as you may agree, most people are well aware that Arch is more complicated/advanced than the "beginner distros"; and one of the major turn-away points for Linux is it's complexity. Thus why it maintains a minuscule sliver of consumer users.

That's not me disliking Linux (I use it as my primary OS, for about 20 years now), that's just being in tune with reality.