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by roenxi 851 days ago
> I don't really see myself as being mean; you claim I haven't said what he's done, and yet you've just replied to a post where I've given more detail into what I believe he did wrong. If you're going to choose to ignore it, or decide it's not "enough" based on whatever rubric you've chosen, then I'm not really sure what to tell you.

Well; yeah. I think what you've said is what you have - you got a bad vibe on the fellow, found him annoying but aren't in a position to back the sense up with anything specific. No actual situations were problematic enough to point at and a code contribution eventually got merged. You're listing a bunch of things where the charitable take is "this sounds pretty normal". The dude wrote a lot of code without talking to the maintainer first; he thought what he was doing was a good idea and the maintainers got a bit exasperated interacting with him. Nothing there justifies the mean comment, I'd suggest most people have done that somewhere at some point. Random unnecessary rewrites is literally how I get to know new codebases, although I usually delete them rather than trying to get them merged but if they were technical improvements I could see myself giving it a shot.

Given your response to a relatively mild dose of feedback on backbiting; I think you probably can figure out why I see the comment as mean. I haven't impugned your motives or questioned your technical competence and you jumped pretty quickly to seeing an "uninformed, holier-than-thou attempt at dressing me down". Maybe this dude is the next Hans Reiser, but even then if you're going to go at some random contributor's reputation it'd be fair to have some specifics. Dates, links and examples that showcase abnormal behaviour to a bar where it needs to be shared.

> ...you can think I'm an asshole and a blowhard...

You might be expecting people to read a bit too much into comments? As far as I know we've exchanged 3; that isn't enough to get a great clear read on someone outside the topic at hand. Let the records record that I'm not seeing obvious personality tells in your comments. We're all in it together.

> If you don't find my point of view valuable, fine, downvote it

Fun fact; I practically don't downvote things. And the last comment I flagged was in 2022. Either something gets ignored or I post a comment. Downvotes are too ambiguous a signal.

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> Random unnecessary rewrites is literally how I get to know new codebases, although I usually delete them rather than trying to get them merged but if they were technical improvements I could see myself giving it a shot.

This I think highlights the key disconnect here. From this statement alone, it is clear to me that you have respect for maintainers' time (for lack of better terminology). This will tend to clearly come across in proposing patches or other interactions, even though it can be difficult to pin it down as something other than vibes.