[itishappy]

I disagree somewhat. It should not be possible for a plane to leave the factory without completing all QC checks. People are fallible, so a robust process is critical, and designing/confirming a robust QC process is a QA responsibility.

[legitster]

Sure, but "did the plane leave with all of the bolts it was supposed to" does not seem like a question that needs to be answered by someone with mechanical engineering degree. Let alone the responsibility of someone sitting in a cubicle in Everett.

[itishappy]

Agreed, but "how do we design the process to ensure, structurally, we cannot kill our customers" starts to sound a bit more engineering-like, no?

[legitster]

Honestly, no. Pinning management and oversight issue on designers is a bad idea and unfair CYA.

If cars are leaving the factory without brakes on, you shouldn't start firing engineers for designing a car that's possible to build without brakes.

[djmips]

And these QC design people are engineers.

[itishappy]

Right! It's engineers all the way down...

[gumby]

Well, it's supposed to be, anyway.