[Grustaf]

Isn't the fact that the platform vendor very clearly promotes Swift and makes most new APIs swift only a "practical reason"?

[lapcat]

> Isn't the fact that the platform vendor very clearly promotes Swift

No, the platform vendor promotes a lot of shit.

I remember when they were heavily pushing Objective-C Garbage Collection. The fools who adopted it got burned when Apple removed GC entirely, killing their apps. I'm not suggesting that Apple will remove Swift, but it's a mistake to listen to Apple's hype and what Apple says. Their PR is not trustworthy. Make your own decisions.

[Grustaf]

Shit or not, if new APIs require swift, it’s more of a practical question than an ideological one.

[lapcat]

> You seem motivated by ideology and hatred more than anything.

Please don't violate the HN guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[cc101]

Practical means I can't proceed without changing languages. As long as I can proceed with objC, I will.

[Grustaf]

There are already many APIs you can’t use, and more or less all APIs in general are now easier to use in swift. But sure, you can still write apps in objc.